If you're curious about the stoves:
Here are the altoids and V8 stoves next to each other, plus in the background of one pic you can see the wind screen and pot. That little silver thingy made out of an aluminum strap is the pot handle. Everything fits inside the pot. With the altoids stove, the whole set weighed in at 7.5 ounces (pan, windscreen, stove, handle).
Haven't tried it with the ion stove yet.
Like I mentioned in the previous post -- it might be better to put the "pot holder" on the ion stove to transfer more heat down to the fuel and get it good and hot beforre ignition for better efficiency.
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